Kill Chain Podcast: AI Is as Bad as It’s Ever Going to Be

Danny Lilley joins the Kill Chain podcast to talk about his journey from managing hundreds of people at enterprise giants like Swift Transportation and Werner, to building lean and fast at HOPTEK, a startup using AI to transform freight procurement. Danny shares his unfiltered take on agentic AI, why curiosity is now the most valuable professional skill, the real risks of tools like OpenClaw, AI in education, and what zero-day exploits powered by AI mean for the future of cybersecurity. If you think AI is just a chatbot that writes emails, this episode will change your mind.